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Locked Thread ANYTHING with a turbo Americans did it first and better  
cwytt
Enthusiast | Posts: 402 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 03/02/08
10:36 PM

haha thanks guys, just a little what if scenario.  But we could ignore him, but that's not as fun as this is.  We sure have gotten a surge of posts and activity since he came.  


 
yovanilla
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 03/03/08
06:29 AM

GodspeedS777SS:
THE MAZDA COMPANY IS THE ONLY CMPANY THAT Mass produced the Rotary engine , though there was a marine engine in american running a rotary engine for a while and the owner of those right is MOLLER(inventer of the air car).
The mazda early rotary engines and even through the 80s were 100 percent unreliable and had serious issues so bad you can buy a rotary case converted into a fish tank now days. (you go mazda). Lets also point out a mazda has never won a major road race in the world and it being the most raced car in the world I serouisly doubt that, when you consider how many magazines are Dedicated to the mustang in drag racen , Grand AM, Scca, etc etc, only time a mazda races is at mazda race way and racen other mazdas. FYI FORD OWNS MAZDA.
YES HARD TO BELIVE THAT WHEN THE PRODUCTION OF THE NEW RX8 CAME OUT THEY WANT STRAIGHT TO GM AND GOT THERE OLD BLUE PRINTS . ALSO INTRESTING NOTE HERE GUYS DRAG RACED A ROTARY ENGINE A WHILE BACK IN A THREE ROTOR SET UP NOTE THE HP NUMBER THEY CAME UP WITH 600HP THE VERY EXACT HP RATEN GM CAME UP WITH IN 1960s .
Though the RX8 in its self isnt impressive slower than GXP solstice or sky, Mustang gt, SS montecarlo , SS Impala . Also note the RX8 runs on high octane fuel and gets worse mpg than the V8s are getting and also note these are in full body cars not compact light weight car. Is there any wonder why Ford owns Mazda...


wow, that's funny since an rx-8 just won the gt class at the 24 hours at daytona this year [url]http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/01/28/076055.html[/url]

which, by the way is mazda's 22nd major endurance win, which includes the 787b as the only japanese car to ever win the 24 heurs du le mans, 1991.  

n/a rotaries are actually extremely reliable and were known for it all thru the 70's and 80's.  the turbo cars were another story; SCC did a story about 5 years back on some of the FC's design shortcomings when it came to durability for the turbocharged 13B's, most of which were things like a smaller radiator used in the interest of weight savings.  

at least hit google the next time you've got the urge to spout off more shenannigans nonsense  

here's mazda's rotary history page

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/story/index.html

noting that they first worked with german motorcycle manfuacturer NSU (who felix wankel worked for) in 1961 to develop their own wankel engine.  

also a quick google search show's felix wankel's own US patent filed in 1961.  

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2988008.html

and here's a quick article stating that in Nov 1970 GM paid for licensing use to develop their own rotary engine (which was defunct shortly after).

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-74983532.html

but you said that GM developed and patented the rotary in the 50's so that can't be right...      

p.s. the rx8 weighs a solid 200lbls LESS than my compact impreza.  


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dannyf
User | Posts: 155 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 03/03/08
10:10 AM

GodspeedS777SS:
OH CAR AND DRIVER DID A ARTICLE A FEW YEARS BACK I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT, CALLED THE STREET TUNER CHALLANGE. It had the best compact tuners in the world assemble cars and all were side by side tested to find out who was best handeling etc. Then they compared that to a bone stock 40 thousand dollar corvette and found out the corvette lap times were 1.5 seconds faster stock new with warranty. Note the WRX sti is a 30 thousand dollar car 10 grand more corvette better handeling and faster.

That Corvette was a $55 grand Z06. I have been reading CD longer than SCC.

Even still, give me $40 grand, I'll give you an 03 Evo that will be faster in any fashion than an 03 Z06.

Give me the $70 grand needed for a new Z06, and I'll beat a new ZR-1 with that used Ariel Atom I saw in AutoWeek. $60 grand for the car, and another $10 thou for coilovers and an ECU reflash for the Ecotech.

American companies have made some truly remarkable cars, but today, except for a few select names (Corvette, Mustang), they are useless compared to their faster, more economical, and more refined "Ferrin' Cars".  


 
GodspeedS777SS
User | Posts: 57 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 03/03/08
07:47 PM

THE Lemans series goes like this: Prototype class, GT1, GT2 , GT . So the slowest class that no one realy races in but the slow and dumb automobiles won . You go mazda with your special olympics and all. Thats like auto x , you know those special race classes for those special type of cars .  


 
GodspeedS777SS
User | Posts: 57 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 03/03/08
07:50 PM

Ford and GM Since the inception of ferrarie has kicked his butt. GT40, AC cobra, Daytonas , 8 straight in the corvette recently. Read my other post about the enzo vs ferrarie bit.  


 
GodspeedS777SS
User | Posts: 57 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 03/03/08
07:52 PM

SCC ? WHAT IS IT AND HAS ANYONE HEARD OF IT. I HAVE HEARD OF SCCA BUT NO SCC? NO STOCK PRODUCTION EVO OR MODIFIED EVO WILL EVER TAKE ON A CORVETTE DOLLAR TO DOLLAR IN PERFORMANCE, HANDELING AND BRAKEN. SHORT WHEEL BASE CARS DONT HANDEL  


 
GodspeedS777SS
User | Posts: 57 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 03/03/08
07:56 PM

REASON why the rotary engines arent reliable. To make hp you need to turn around 8 to 9 thousand rpms , since the pereodic table hasnt changed in the last 10 million years i guess they cant make it last long pulling those types of rpms. This is why the Corvette dominates lemans. The V8 LS motors turn less rpms there for the motors are more reliable due to less wear and tear. This is whats also wrong with enzo theory his race four cylinder cars and v12s they all turned high numbers of rpms which in turn cuased shorten engine life. Jaguar who competes against Corvette with there v10 runs into the same engine issues. This reduction of rpms Is also a reason the the corvettes are getting better mpg than any other car in lemans also.  


 
yovanilla
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 03/04/08
06:25 AM

GodspeedS777SS:
SCC ? WHAT IS IT AND HAS ANYONE HEARD OF IT. I HAVE HEARD OF SCCA BUT NO SCC? NO STOCK PRODUCTION EVO OR MODIFIED EVO WILL EVER TAKE ON A CORVETTE DOLLAR TO DOLLAR IN PERFORMANCE, HANDELING AND BRAKEN. SHORT WHEEL BASE CARS DONT HANDEL

What's SCC?  Hmm, I call troll.  Nobody can be that stupid.  So you must be a troll.  

p.s. the Mazda 787B was the OVERALL winner at Le Mans, 1991

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans  


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Godspeed01
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/04/08
05:55 PM

ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE WEAK AND ILL ADVISED. Come on anyone that uses google or wickepedia as sources is a idiot hands down. America had a good run and did everything in automotive history first and better and times of stock cars like 69 corvettes, buick grand nationals, gmc syclones , typhoones , RS escorts etc hands down show that even the cars of today like exotics dont post superior times but only equall to what has been done almost 20 to 40 years ago. L88 corvette 69 posted 11 sec 1/4 time , buick grand national 13s Sequential fuel injection , GMC syclone 13s AWD, Typhoon 13s SUV etc etc... Whats wrong with america and why were on a spiral down of decay is due to everyone is trying to be rich for doing nothing. We have by passed Japan in last couple of years (as in Japan used asia as there out source for third world labor and then sold it to america) and going straight to the source of third world labor asia to get our goods. This has made people rich in america beyond belief but has hurt alot of americans along the way so bad 1 out of six american kids is liven in poverty.  


 
yovanilla
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 03/05/08
07:54 AM

LOL that's the best you've got?  What, you want me to actually go to the library and record some print references?  lol.  


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Duuuuuuuude
New User | Posts: 20 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 03/05/08
03:38 PM

yovanilla:
LOL that's the best you've got?  What, you want me to actually go to the library and record some print references?  lol.

Agreed. I guess we're supposed to know all this stuff right off of the top of our heads.

 


 
Master_Shake029
Enthusiast | Posts: 550 | Joined: 11/06
Posted: 03/05/08
08:09 PM

notice his name changed... your attempts at a fake "Unbiased opinion" is weak and illadviced. doesn't even know how an engine works.... tsk tsk tsk. SCC is sport compact car.

I bet this is one of them idiots who goes around the internet googling crap and thinking hes an expert. I bet you read half of a book or two and went online and found the description for this place with the thing reading "import, performance" and you decided to think "Bunch or ricers!" You don't even know what SCC is. go to Turbo or Super Street you'll do fine... trust me they don't know how an engine works either.  


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Godspeed777GNX
New User | Posts: 10 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/16/08
02:17 PM

My name changes cuase you people run the blog and dont like the fact that I can post a descent written article that people will actualy respond to and put hits on the web site. Fact is im popular and would make the web site make more money and you cant have that cuase the tard writters you higher are suppose to do this.  


 
yovanilla
New User | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 03/17/08
02:02 PM

Godspeed777GNX:
My name changes cuase you people run the blog and dont like the fact that I can post a descent written article that people will actualy respond to and put hits on the web site. Fact is im popular and would make the web site make more money and you cant have that cuase the tard writters you higher are suppose to do this.

Grammar aside, I count six spelling mistakes.  How can you claim to write money-making articles yet make six spelling mistakes inside of two sentances      


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Lovegod777
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/30/08
07:09 PM

CHECKMATE!!!
 I SAID SOMETHING WILL POST AND REPLY TO . YET YOU HAVE THE INABLITY TO COMPREHEND THIS AND ONLY ARGUE ABOUT TYPOS ETC. OVER 1000 PLUS REVIEWS AND HANDS DOWN MORE POST THAN ANY OTHER ARTICLE ON THIS WEB SITE. NOW GO AND FABRICATE POST ON SOMETHING YOU DID EARLIER TO CONTRADICT ME.  


 
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